Will the Minister for Telecommunications admit that the buyer of Pegasus was the GoI? : P Chidambaram

P Chidambaram – Former Union Finance Minister:

After the SC’s wise and bold order in the Pegasus controversy, the first skeleton has tumbled out

Yesterday, Israel’s Ambassador publicly stated that Pegasus spyware was sold only to governments

So, in India’s case, the buyer was certainly the Government of India

Will the Minister for Telecommunications admit that the buyer of Pegasus was the GoI?

If he remains silent, the blot on his report card will remain

Can any conscientious citizen decline the request of the SC to serve in a matter of paramount national interest?: P Chidambaram

P Chidambaram – Former Union Finance Minister:

I am perturbed by the statement in the SC order that many persons when requested to be a member of a Committee to probe the Pegasus controversy, “politely declined”

Can any conscientious citizen decline the request of the SC to serve in a matter of paramount national interest?

This episode illustrates how far we have traveled from the exhortation of Mahatma Gandhi that Indians should not fear their rulers.

It is a big step that the Supreme Court has said that they will look into the Pegasus spyware matter: Rahul Gandhi

Special Press Briefing by former Congress President Rahul Gandhi at the AICC HQ on Pegasus spyware:

In the last parliament session, we had raised this issue of Pegasus because we felt that it was an attack on the democratic structure & foundations of our nation. And, we had jointly blocked the parliament.

Today, the Supreme Court has given its opinion and basically supported what we were saying.

We were asking three basic questions:

1. Who authorised Pegasus – which agency, which person authorised Pegasus? As we all know Pegasus cannot be bought by a private individual, it has to be bought by a govt, it is a weapon.

2. Who were the victims of Pegasus- who was it used against? Because there is a list of people including Opposition leaders, BJP members, Supreme Court justices-the CJI; who were being attacked.

3. Did any other country have access to information of our people? Were they privy? Did they have access to our data?

For these three basic questions, we did not get any answers. Infact, no reply was given to us.

Pegasus is an attempt to crush Indian democracy. It is an attempt to make sure- the vibrancy of our democracy, the conversations that take place in our democracy are crushed and people are controlled.

It is a big step that the Supreme Court has said that they will look into the Pegasus spyware matter. I am confident that we will get the truth out of this.

There are many different ways in which the idea of India is being attacked. Pegasus is of course a particularly nasty & subversive way of doing it.

Pegasus is a way to control the politics of the country- a way to control people, to blackmail them, to not allow the democratic process to work. We are quite happy that the Supreme Court has accepted to look into this.

We will raise the issue in Parliament again. I’m sure that the BJP will not like the debate and will make sure it is stalled. But we will make sure the debate is held & tell our people that the idea of India is being attacked.

Pegasus Snoopgate is a deeper problem. It is one thing to use Pegasus to find out about terrorism & national security, but if Prime Minister is using this as a personal tool & the data is arriving on the PM’s desk, then that’s fully criminal.

Pegasus Snoopgate is an issue where the GoI is attacking the national security of the country. Our data, India’s data, data related to eminent people being handed to a foreign country is an attack on the national security of the country.

If it is true that the data of our CEC, Opposition leaders, our CMs is held outside of India, the Govt of India has attacked India itself.

The truth is- using Pegasus is an illegal action. Only two people could’ve taken this action. No other minister but the Prime Minister or the Home Minister have authorised this. And it is very difficult for the Govt to answer these questions.

Opposition is united in spite of Modi Govt’s efforts to break the unity: Jairam Ramesh

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Jairam Ramesh – MP, Former Union Minister:

Opposition is united in spite of Modi Govt’s efforts to break the unity.

We demand:

1. First, a discussion on the Pegasus scandal and its impact on national security with a reply by the Home Minister.

2. A repeal of the 3 black farm laws with a discussion on farmers’ concerns.

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NSO Group had 40 governments and 60 agencies as its clients: P Chidambaram

P Chidambaram – Former Union Finance Minister:

  • NSO Group had 40 governments and 60 agencies as its clients

  • A simple question: was the government of India one of the forty?

  • Why is it so difficult for the government of India to give a straight answer to that simple question?

Another case of misuse of Pegasus spyware has been revealed now: P Chidambaram

  • Another case of misuse of Pegasus spyware has been revealed now

  • France’s national cyber security agency has confirmed that Pegasus spyware was infiltrated into phones belonging to two journalists of Mediapart, an investigative journal in France

  • Mediapart is the media organization that broke the story that the Rafale aircraft deal was being probed in France

  • Will the govt. give up its ostrich-like attitude and agree to the Opposition’s demand for a full discussion in Parliament on misuse of Pegasus spyware in India?

  • How long can the government duck and hide and scoot when all that the Opposition wants is a full debate?

The Pegasus snooping case is growing larger and more ominous every day: P Chidambaram

P Chidambaram – Former Union Finance Minister:

  • The Pegasus snooping case is growing larger and more ominous every day.

  • The Defence Minister of Israel is flying to France to meet with President Macron of France. Why?

  • Not to have dinner at a French restaurant!

  • He is going there to apologise and make peace with President Macron who was the victim of snooping.

  • France is concerned, Israel is concerned, other countries are concerned.

  • Only government of India is not concerned. Isn’t that STRANGE?

Pegasus is sold from govt to govt. .. : Rahul Gandhi

Rahul Gandhi – Former Congress President’s interaction with Media. Excerpts via INC India:

Pegasus is a weapon that is supposed to be used against terrorists.

The PM & HM have used this weapon against the Indian state & against our institutions.

The only word for this is treason. This has to be investigated & the HM has to resign

The PM & HM have used Pegasus as a weapon against the Indian state. They have used it – politically, – to scuttle probes, – against Supreme Court

Are you allowed to buy Pegasus? Can I buy Pegasus?

Pegasus has to be authorised by the nation state. The file has to be signed at the minimum by the Home Minister, probably by the Prime Minister.

Pegasus is sold from govt to govt.

Every single phone of mine is tapped.

IB people call me & say please be aware, we are tapping your phone.

My security people tell me they have to report to their seniors everything I say.

So I am under no pretentions & I do not get intimidated

The latest revelation substantiates that the snooping has been used to topple the Karnataka govt. : KC Venugopal

Special Congress Party Briefing by Shri Kharge, Shri Adhir Chowdhury, Shri KC Venugopal, Shri RS Surjewala, Shri Siddaramaiah & Shri DK Shivakumar at AICC HQ. Excerpts:

KC Venugopal – Gen Sec. :

The latest revelation substantiates that the snooping has been used to topple the Karnataka govt. The timing of the snooping indicates that the intention was to topple the govt

It is very clear that the central leadership of the BJP has planned to topple the govt by horse-trading, by hook or crook. They used the pegasus software to topple the govt.

Former PM, Mr. Gowda’s phone has also been tapped. There is a simple question before the country, who is safe anymore? Everyone has to be careful in the country nowadays, there’s no privacy, our Union Govt can enter into anyone’s kitchen, bedroom, bathroom now

The govt has to come forward for an open discussion. If they are completely innocent, why don’t they order a judicial inquiry under Supreme Court monitoring.

You can see that when Karnataka incident happened, we approached SC, 17 of our MLAs had joined BJP at the time.

We approached SC for disqualification of these members. Who was Chief Justice then? He’s now a current Rajya Sabha member

That judgement was instrumental for the horse trading industry that has come in the country now

On Thursday at every state HQs we are doing a march to demand a thorough judicial inquiry under the leadership of Supreme Court

Former Karnataka CM Siddaramaiah:

It is Narendra Modi ji who supported Yediyurappa to topple the govt of Mr. Kumaraswamy

This is a crime committed by the GoI & it has to be raised in both the houses of Parliament. The party which was at the Centre should not play such kind of dirty games.

When we look at the Pegasus issue through the prism of logic, it clearly emerges that there is no substance behind this sensationalism: Ashwini Vaishnaw in LS

Shri Ashwini Vaishnaw, the Minister of Electronics & Information Technology made following statement on  “Alleged use of spyware Pegasus to compromise phone data of some persons as reported in Media on 18th July 2021” in Lok Sabha here today:

A highly sensational story was published by a web portal yesterday night.

Many over the top allegations have been made around this story.

The press reports have appeared a day before the Monsoon session of Parliament. This cannot be a coincidence.

In the past, similar claims were made regarding the use of Pegasus on WhatsApp. Those reports had no factual basis and were categorically denied by all parties, including in the Supreme Court.

The press reports of 18th July 2021 also appear to be an attempt to malign the Indian democracy and its well established institutions.

We cannot fault those who haven’t read the news story in detail. And I request all Members of the House to examine the issues on facts and logic.

The basis of this report is that there is a consortium which has got access to a leaked database of 50,000 phone numbers. The allegation is that individuals linked to these phone numbers were being spied upon. However, the report says that:

The presence of a phone number in the data does not reveal whether a device was infected with Pegasus or subject to an attempted hack.

Without subjecting a phone to this technical analysis, it is not possible to conclusively state whether it witnessed an attack attempt or was successfully compromised.

Therefore, the report itself clarifies that presence of a number does not amount to snooping.

Let us examine what NSO, the company which owns the technology has said. It said:

NSO Group believes that claims that you have been provided with, are based on misleading interpretation of leaked data from basic information, such as HLR Lookup services, which have no bearing on the list of the customers’ targets of Pegasus or any other NSO products.

Such services are openly available to anyone, anywhere, and anytime, and are commonly used by governmental agencies as well as by private companies worldwide. It is also beyond dispute that the data has nothing to do with surveillance or with NSO, so there can be no factual basis to suggest that a use of the data somehow equates to surveillance.

NSO has also said that the list of countries shown using Pegasus is incorrect and many countries mentioned are not even our clients. It also said that most of its clients are western countries.

It is evident that NSO has also clearly rubbished the claims in the report.

Let us look at India’s established protocol when it comes to surveillance. I’m sure my colleagues in the opposition who have been in Government for years would be well aware of these protocols. Since they have governed the country, they would also be aware that any form of illegal surveillance is not possible with the checks and balances in our laws and our robust institutions.

In India, there is a well established procedure through which lawful interception of electronic communication is carried out for the purpose of national security, particularly on the occurrence of any public emergency or in the interest of public safety, by agencies at the Centre and States.

The requests for these lawful interception of electronic communication are made as per relevant rules under the provisions of section 5(2) of Indian Telegraph Act,1885 and section 69 of the Information TechnologyAct, 2000.

Each case of interception or monitoring is approved by the competent authority. These powers are also available to the competent authority in the state governments as per IT (Procedure and Safeguards for Interception, monitoring and Decryption of Information) Rules, 2009.

There is an established oversight mechanism in the form of a review committee headed by the Union Cabinet Secretary. In case of state governments, such cases are reviewed by a committee headed by the Chief Secretary concerned. The law also provides an adjudication process for those adversely affected by any incident.

The procedure therefore ensures that any interception or monitoring of any information is done as per due process of law. The framework and institutions have withstood the test of time.

In conclusion, I humbly submit that:

  • The publisher of the report states that it cannot say if the numbers in the published list were under surveillance.
  • The company whose technology was allegedly used has denied these claims outrightly.
  • And the time tested processes in our country are well-established to ensure that unauthorised surveillance does not occur.

When we look at this issue through the prism of logic, it clearly emerges that there is no substance behind this sensationalism.

In his statement the Minister has omitted to quote the crucial part of Pegasus’ statement: P Chidambaram

  • NSO Group, the owner of Pegasus, has said that “NSO sells its technologies solely to law enforcement and intelligence agencies of vetted governments”

  • It is unfortunate that Minister Vaishnaw has started his innings on the wrong foot.

  • In his statement the Minister has omitted to quote the crucial part of Pegasus’ statement.

  • The services that are “openly available to anyone, anywhere, and anytime” refer to HLR Lookup services, not to Pegasus.

  • The Minister should answer a simple question: Did the government acquire the Pegasus software/spyware?

The Pegasus revelations are abhorrent: Priyanka Gandhi

Priyanka Gandhi – General Secretary, Congress:

  • The Pegasus revelations are abhorrent. If true, the Modi government seems to have launched a grave and sinister attack on the Right to Privacy – constitutionally guaranteed to Indian citizens as a Fundamental Right.

  • This is an affront to democracy and has ominous implications for our freedoms.

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